DIALOGUE WITH THE DEVIL...
THIS IS AN RECENT EMAIL I RECIEVED FROM AN EDOMITE NATIONALLY BROADCAST RADIO MINISTRY CALLED "DISCOVER THE WORD" REBUTTING MY ASSERTION OF WHO THE TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL ARE....
you said....
Because of the fall of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah and the captivity of the children of Israel in Assyria, Babylon, and Persia, many Jewish people in Christ's day were unaware of their tribal origins.
i say....
that is true because of jer 17 4. however you are forgetting about ezek 37 1 1-14 when the time would come that the nation of israel(negros,latinos,and native american indians..on your fathers side numbers 2 2, would be "reborn" speaking of israel after the "seed" of abraham (jer 33:25-26. meaning they would "wake up" to who they are again by
the spirit of the most high.john 14 26.
you said......
Still, however, the high priestly office had become a "political football" by the time of the New Testament period, and was filled with no regard for tribal origins. The Sadducees, Pharisees, and other sects were not at all based upon tribal origins.
i said.....
your attempt to nullify the literal twelve tribes with that statement is a mute argument seeing that just because they didnt know what tribe they were from for the most part didnt mean that in our day the israelites wouldnt know what tribe they came from.to do this weakens the power of the most high, also just because they had no regard for tribal origins does not mean the most high does not have regard for tribal origin according to his word.
you said......
Proselytes have always been welcome to become full-fledged members of Judaism. The only requirement was that males be circumsized and that they observe the whole law, like other naturally born Jews. Therefore, God’s covenant with Abraham didn’t apply only to his physical descendents. (See Exodus 12:48).
i say.....
you err when you say the abrahamic covenant does not only apply to "abrahams descendants". the abrahamic covenant involved three things
1.land =gen 12 1
2.involved the "seed" of abrahams descendants gen 12 2
3.blessing and redemption gen 12 48 (please do not try to argue romans 2 28-29 it is still talking about israelites after the flesh)
4.it was a "unilateral" agreement that the most high would accomplish himself.
it is true that "other nations" will be a part of the eternal kingdom. BUT ONLY AS SLAVES to the twelve tribes of israel(rev 3 9-10,isaiah 49 23,isaiah 60 14 etc etc..) to the twelve tribes of israel. just as the twelve tribes (and all verses where god talks about "bringing again their captivity"ezek 16 53,jer 16 53,jer 49 6 etc etc negros,latinos,and native american indians who are the twelve tribes of israel scattered throughout the world today)have been enslaved and held captive to all nations and historical empires(eygpt,assyrian,babylon,media persia,greece,rome and now modern day americans),so the same must happen to all other tribes outside of the twelve tribes of israel when our punishedment is accomplished. this is the reason israelites had to go through chattel slavery,discrimination,last hired,first fired,lynching,imprisonment,mockings and scornings by the other nations,bywords,proverbs,etc etc. (read deut 28 starting from verse 16 to 68 with verse 68 in particular speaking about the mid atlantic slave trade to the edomites or caucasasian people or white man just as gen 15 13 prophsied of) these events was are a sign to the whole world that negros,latinos,and native american indians are indeed the very nation of israel or twelve tribes that god said would go into captivity to the other nations and would forget our nation and heritage and become "strangers and foriegners (james 1:1 eph 2:11) in our minds to our nationality just as the most high said would happen and is still happening today.
you say..
The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler (himself a Jew of Northern European ancestry) is an interesting book that makes a good case for most Northern European Jews (Ashkenazim) being descendents of the Khazars, a powerful confederation of Turkic-speaking tribes that held sway in the area to the West of the Caspian Sea and to the North of the Black Sea for a period of 400 years. This remarkable Indo-European people was converted to Judaism in the middle of the 8th century, and some scholars believe that most Northern European Jews are of Khazar descent.
i say....
1.first of all ashkenazi and sephardic "jews" are not jews.you cannot "convert" to being an israelite who will recieve the kingdom. although other nations will be a part of our kingdom it will be for the purpose of being our slaves.(rev 13 9-10,isaiah 49 23,isaiah 60 -14 ezek 25 14 etc etc)
2.just because other nations...edomites=white people,elamites=east indian people,hamites=african people,moabites=chinese people,ammonites=japanese,amalekites="so called "jewish" christians etc etc people etc etc call themselve worshipping the most high and the bible.. does not mean they are literaly of the twelve tribes nor will they inherit the kingdom.(rulership,dominion,abundance,peace,harmony,etc etc) the most high said he would make the "beast of the field" (the other nations outside of the twelve tribes of israel...isaiah 43 20 to honor him,but it does not mean they will inherit the kingdom.)
3.arthur koestlers book "the thirteenth tribe exposes the modern day tribe of "amalek" the modern day "so called jews" (rev 2:9 and rev 3:9)as being "fake jews" meaning these people decieve the whole world to believe they are gods chosen when they are not. they do this as a cover to "allay" the worlds jealousy for the fact that the most high has blessed them with ability to get wealth and academic superiority which they would turn around and use for evil purposes which is why the most high gave them this gift in the first place so that he might bring judgment on them for the way they have treated the nation of true israel....negros latinos and native american indians.
you say...
At any rate, it is doubtful modern Jews can accurately trace their ancestry to any specific tribe.
but jesus said.....
Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
in conclusion i am saying to you...if you are going to teach the word of god to your people...TEACH THE TRUTH!!! that means teach the children of israel (negros,latinos,and native american indians) who they are according to the "seed". otherwise you are just heaping on yourself judgement and your listeners no matter how long you have been "teaching" it may be you will find some crumb of mercy by how you treat the twelve tribes from this day forward. (but i doubt it if you are an edomite,seeing that is the only tribe in the bible that will recieve no mercy when the time of your rulership of the earth ( oba 1 18,job 9 24) comes to an end.
yaiquab yisrael